Hi
I was wondering if during your search for information on the Firth family and the Te Aute store if you had come across any mention of a bakery in Te Aute.
My family were the Hydes from Te Aute who had a bakery on ‘Te Aute hill?’ The building is still standing just off the road however it is now a house and the only part of the original bakery left standing is a large chimney. Our family has always known that George Hyde built a bakery there from pit sawn timber milled locally and then gifted it to his son Percy George Hyde, however there is no mention of a bakery in the Opening the gate book or any of the local history records. So its very hard to prove it actually existed. I have the school records for Te Aute School when it first opened and George and Emily Hydes (nee Bishop) children are registered in 1889 as being enrolled there so I know they lived in Te Aute.
Does anyone have any ideas as to how I would find out about other shops and businesses in the Te Aute area?
Lesley
From: Jan
To: Lesley
Subject: Te Aute Bakery
Hi Lesley, I haven’t got any information on the Te Aute bakery or the Hyde family but I will forward your email on to Rosheen down at the Museum and see if she can find anything down there.
Otherwise we’ll try putting it on the website and see if anyone else knows anything. Hopefully something will turn up
Regards
Jan
From: Lesley
To: Jan
Subject: Te Aute Bakery
Hi Jan
Thanks for that. Please let me know if Rosheen requires any more info from me. I’d love to find out more.
Lesley
From: CHB Settlers Museum
To: Jan & Lesley
Subject: Hydes/Te Aute Bakery
Hi Jan & Lesley
Sorry to say that I can find no confirmation of the bakery at Te Aute.
In my Otane notes I did find a quote “notice given to the Otane town board of the transfer of the house and bakers shop [Lot 140] from Mr P G Hyde to Mr A H Bull” 1926.
Also Bob Logan’s little Otane booklet briefly mentions “Hide” as it is spelled in the book as one of the bakeries in the town.
So it would seem the family moved from Te Aute to Otane. Sorry I haven’t been able to find more.
Regards
Rosheen
From: Jan
To: Lesley
Subject: Hydes/Te Aute Bakery
Hi Lesley,
You’ve probably got Rosheens email by now.
I found it quite interesting that she has found reference to the Hydes in Otane.
It just happens I work out at Otane and know of a few people out there who are fairly interested in Otane past and present so I have printed off your enquiry and I might drop in and see them after school to see if they can find out anything more about the Hydes and their bakery in Otane.
I haven’t given up on the Te Aute end of it either. I tried ringing an old friend the other day whose family has lived in Te Aute region like for ever -and she also helped to compile the Opening Gate book. I thought she might be able to shed some light on the bakery – but unfortunately she seemed to be out.
I’m going to be fairly busy this weekend delivering statues for an exhibition up to Hamilton so I might have to follow that up sometime next week.
We’ll just have to wait and see what turns up
Jan
From: Lesley
To: Jan & CHB Settlers Museum
Subject: Hydes/Te Aute Bakery
Hi to you both
Thank you for your time and effort. I realise it will be no mean feat trying to find the Hyde Bakery in Te Aute.
The only info I have that they resided in Te Aute is a copy of the certificate of title for the Kakewahine No.1A block. The deed says that the land was transferred from George Hyde to Percy George Hyde in 1934. However although I know that there was a bakery there, there is no mention of it anywhere.
I know another Hyde child had a bakery in Ormondville. They seemed to be a family of bakers.
I also have confirmation that Percy George Hyde had a bakery in Otane in 1911 as the Coronation Day photo I have has the bakery in the background with P G Hyde General store and bakery on it. It was on the corner of Atkinson Rd? and the main road through Otane. My Grandmother Myrtle Hyde was born there in 1906.
I have such a lot of info that I have been passed down from my grandmother, and also collected during my visits to the Hawkes Bay.
I have the school roll from inaugural 1889 year from Te Aute school and the black page that shows how many straps each child got. The Hyde chldren are on the roll and black page. I know George and Emily Hyde lived in Te Aute from the 1880s as my Grandmother said that when they came to Te Aute George Hyde had to fell and pitsaw his own timber to build the original house. He built it himself and then decades later built another house in front of it. That is the house that stands there today. However old stories arent proof.
Thanks again for your time.
Let me know if you would like copies of the info on Te Aute that I have.
Lesley
From: Jan
To: Lesley
Subject: Hydes/Te Aute Bakery
Hi Lesley,
Just got home and feel a little exhausted after driving all the way to Hamilton and back, plus setting up statues for exhibition all in a day – but thought I would write back and say YES – I would love copies of the info you have. All information adds to the story and perhaps something amongst your info will spark a memory from someone else who reads it… and they might contribute something.
I struck out on finding the Otnae people I was going to talk to yesterday being at home – but I am sure they can add to the Otane part of your family history, so Ill try again sometime next week.
Anyway – as I said before – I’m pretty tired. So I think I might go and blob out for a while… Get back to you when I know more
Jan
From: Bob
To: Jan
Subject: Percy George Hyde
Hi Jan,
I have just Googled Percy George Hyde whilst trying to find out some info on the one remaining branch of Hyde family research I have little on, and your website appeared to my great delight.
My wife was born Shirley Hyde, second daughter of Noel Gordon Hyde, who was second son of Ernest Arthur Hyde, a brother of Percy George Hyde. Years ago Shirley’s mother gave us names of Percy’s children, but they were abreviated or the names by which they were called, and we have never followed up his line of the family.
Last week we passed through Waipawa, and visited the graves of George & Emily Hyde in Pukehou Cemetery which spurred us on to continuing our research into the remaining link of George & Emily’s family.
I don’t know if you are interested in the family genealogy, but I am willing to share what I have and would be very keen to find out about Percy & Louisa’s descendants.
Regards.
Bob
From: Jan
To: Bob
Subject: Percy George Hyde
Hi Bob,
Just got back from Auckland last night and finally had a chance to sit down at my computer today. It’s very strange that while I was away I had another email about the Hydes and the Te Aute Bakery – Its really strange because the original email enquiry came in a year or two back and we hit a dead end. So I’m hoping that Lesley’s email address is still the same.
It is leecherie@xtra.co.nz
I would love to include on the website any other information that comes to light so if you and Lesley could send it on I’ll post it and who knows maybe someone else will come to light with even more info.
Its a great feeling getting people together with ancestors in common.
🙂 Jan
From: Jim
To: Jan
Subject: Percy George Hyde
Hi Jan,
Can you pass on this bit of info to Lesley, and my email address, and if it’s ok I wouldn’t mind making email contact so I can exchange Te Aute info, ie school roll 1889 she states on your web site. I am also researching Te Aute. Jim Taylor
From what I have gathered, and I could be wrong, this add relates to the area to the left of the Pub( store) and right of the pub, three cottages, bake house, old school house, smithy. Unfortunately I have yet to come across any photos. The New school house was built on land donated by S.B.Firth, also on the right of the pub. The store was sold to Grundie, the other property didn’t sell till after S.B died in 1886 and have a different deed name than the one you state.
From: Lesley
To: Jan
Subject: Hyde bakery, Te Aute
Hi Jan
Just to let you know that I made contact with the two people who had hyde/te aute bakery information and was able to update my family history with a lot of new information and photos etc. The info that they gave me was invaluable. If anyone else is interested in the Hyde family from Te Aute/Pukehou I would love to hear from them. I finally found proof that there was a bakery in Te Aute and that it was owned by the Hydes…and I have attached the information. Thanks for your wonderful site
Lesley Hickey
From: Jan
To: Lesley
Subject: Hyde bakery, Te Aute
Hi Lesley,
Its great you’ve found proof of the Bakery – photos and everything -It’s very exciting.
I’m afraid I didn’t find much information for you but if we could post some of what you’ve found out on the website then maybe other people might see it and add to it.
I had that happen just last week – I had someone email me out of the blue who was a descendant of someone who was the subject of one of the really early enquiries on the website. I was able to give her a couple of email addresses of other descendants and now they’re finding out lots of new stuff about their different branches of their families and their g g grandparents.
That’s what I really hope the website can achieve. Sometime, somewhere, someone will open an enquiry and have more info – and then it takes off again for a bit.
Anyway thanks for keeping me up to date.
🙂 Jan